Sunday, January 17, 2010

FEDERAL JUDGE GIVES SPEECH TO BAR ASSOCIATION ABOUT TURNER CASE!

Chicago, IL – In a very rare and unusual move, a sitting federal judge talked about a pending federal case in a speech before the American Bar Association (ABA). Judge Joan Lefkow (N.D. Ill.), whose husband and mother were killed in 2005 by a disgruntled litigant — seems to be on the fence about the Hal Turner case. At the recent ABA annual conference, she described the Turner case, then remarked:

“We’re probably all saying to ourselves, ‘Well, is that enough to constitute a threat under the law?’ and I honestly don’t know,” she said just before reading the relevant statute [18 U.S.C. § 115] out loud. “I don’t know if that’s a threat or not.”

Hal was arrested on June 24, 2009 after publishing an Editorial which was critical of the way three federal Judges violated the US Constitution and violated a recent US Supreme Court Ruling. Hal wrote that the Judges were "traitors" to the United States and were tyrants. He quoted Thomas Jefferson's "Tree of Liberty Letter" which said "The tree of liberty must be replenished from time to time with the blood of tyrants and patriots." Hal then wrote "Let me be the first to say this plainly, these judges deserve to be killed."

The government claims that saying the judges "deserve to be killed" is a threat to actually go out and kill them! Hal knows that saying someone "deserves" something is just an opinion; it is perfectly lawful free speech.

Based on what he wrote, the government charged Hal with "threatening to assault and murder three United States judges."

THERE'S JUST ONE LITTLE PROBLEM

Hal was trained in the use of violent rhetoric because he was working with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force as a National Security Intelligence Informant. The FBI gave repeated instructions, some in writing, which taught Hal exactly where the line is between lawful and unlawful speech.

For instance, during the Lefkow murder investigation, two members of the JTTF contacted Hal early the morning after the Lefkow murders, asking to meet with him immediately. Hal met them at the Coach House Diner about a half mile away from his home in North Bergen, NJ.

At that meeting, Hal recalls Agent Stephen Haug and New Jersey State Police Detective Leonard Nerbetski inquired of him about the murders and then dropped a bombshell: They said it would increase Hal's "anti-government image" if he poked fun at the murders!

Hal remembers being flabbergasted at that, saying it was grotesque to make fun of such a thing. But the FBI was adamant saying they suspected White Supremacists were behind the killings and one way to flush them out was to make them think they had a friend they could confide in. Hal was to play that role.

Hal went home and within minutes of that meeting - on March 1, 2005 - Hal published a photo of Judge Lefkow beneath a banner headline which read "GOTCHA!"

Hal regretted having to do that and hopes one day to meet with Judge Lefkow, explain why he did what he did and apologize for the hurt such a thing must have caused. The FBI however, was quite pleased. Within two weeks of Hal poking fun at the Lefkow murders, the FBI paid him $3,000.

The paperwork accompanying the pay voucher covers the date range for which Hal was being paid and, among other things, specifically mentions Hal's work in the Lefkow murder case! In justifying the payment to Hal, the FBI paperwork states "there is absolutely nothing illegal or criminal about posting Judges addresses on TURNER'S web site." Hal has the pay voucher to prove this.

Not only did the FBI pay Hal $3,000 but months later, in an annual "Suitability Report" the FBI applauded Hal for his work on the Lefkow case, saying his efforts allowed the FBI to determine the Lefkow murders were NOT related to White Supremacist groups. That report went on to recommend Hal be retained and continue operating for the FBI, going to rallies and performing other tasks.

What's even more astonishing about this situation is that during Hal's criminal trial in December, US Attorneys William Hogan and William Ridgway tried using the Lefkow situation AGAINST Hal to try proving he was a threat! That trial ended in a hung jury which voted 9 to 3 in favor of acquittal. If Hal goes back on trial as scheduled for March 1, the pay voucher and its accompanying paperwork will be introduced as defense evidence. It will prove the FBI paid Hal Turner for what he did against federal judges.

The link to Judge Lefkow's remarks about Hal Turner is here:
http://abovethelaw.com/2009/08/hal_turner_denied_bail.php

22 comments:

  1. So, if I understand correctly,

    If the FBI and JOINT TERRORISUM TASK FORCE would have stepped up and told the USDA in Chicago, "This man is a valuable source for the National Security of Our Country, Let's put a stop to this NOW!" If they did that, which would have been the right thing to do, they would still have a valuable source to help with Our National Security and Hal and his family would still be safe. Isn't that correct?

    WHAT A BETRAYAL to Hal with the irrational, stupid and unwise behavior from the only people that could have put a stop to this, (THE POWERS THAT BE).

    Now, instead of having a Win, Win situation they have a Lose, Lose situation, brought on because they just sat back and let Hal rot in jail (aka: DID NOTHING).

    Did they expect Hal to just do nothing, Not protect himself, Not protect his family?

    No decent, self respecting man could be expected to do NOTHING!

    What a BUNCH OF SHIT!!!

    Hang in there Hal, this judge was in court to hear the story and know's what is really happening. He will do the right thing and dismiss these trumped up charges. While he is at it, he should charge this USDA, throw his ass in jail, so he (USDA) can experience what it feels like to be a true victim of a man (like himself) while getting a dose of his own medicine.

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  2. I READ IN A PREVIOUS COMMENT HOW THIS guy Hogan spent about 80% of his time in court mentioning Judge Lefkow and her lose.

    Now I see Judge Lefkow did not condemn you, or bash you.

    What I find, both said and interesting is that Hogan used this women's personal loose to bolster his own personal gain.

    THIS GUY IS A REAL SNAKE.

    As foe the Judge, there are some Judges who under stand evil corruption, some don't have a clue,and others who don't give a shit.

    Although Judge Walter must be under a great deal of political scrutiny and pressure,I still believe that he will hold strong to HIS HONOR and due the right thing by dismissing these charges.

    You and your family will remain in our prays.
    GOD BLESS YOU HAL.

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  3. THE GRAND CHESSBOARD , INDEED.

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  4. Hey! Did the FBI have a hand writing Hal's version of Hava Nagila? That must have pissed off a few Rabbis.

    I mean who came up with the lyrics for that Hal or the resident FBI songwriter?

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  5. -the Judiciary in America is rife with traditional jewZionist corruption, --which then influences some weak-minded non-jews to think that they can get away with similar under-the-table shenanigans as well; --and so goes the entire vital infrastructure of our ethics besieged society. Unfortunately, the jewZionist's have installed their Talmudic-agents throughout our bureaucracy, and thus it was right that HT expressed his valid opinion that such wicked betrayal of trusted bestowed upon those in our fragile Judicial-sys. indeed without question deserve to be killed, --preferably via a firing-squad or the gallows of a public-square...

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  6. Sometimes a person who wants a certain outcome arranges the FACTS to fit what is CONVENIENT.
    To them it's just a REFLEX.
    (ie:) Get the people to believe that the word "DESERVES" is a crime, a crime is a physical action , a word is NOT, it's and OPINION.
    He should prosecute the REAL CRIMINALS, or is Chicago so pristine it has no criminals?
    This guy has got to be kidding, he needs to get a life.

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  7. In the link on the blog spot I read how Judge Lefkow described THE TURNER CASE.
    In these comments I read Judge Posner's comments referring to himself as a "VICTIM".
    A VICTIM OF WHAT? Not any I know.
    I don't remember reading that any of these Judges asked for Security.Did they? I doubt that.
    If they actually felt threatened they not only would have,but could have asked for Security, that's what I would do.
    Are they giving out trophy's in Chicago for Acting or Drama??
    This entire case should win a prize.Maybe it's the air they are breathing is causing Brain Farts.
    WHAT A PATHETIC JOKE

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  8. I think it might be the recycled air in that Federal Building that's causing this mess, or a POWER DIFFERENTIAL ripe for abuse.

    Thank God the rest of our country breath's different air. What a mess our world would be in if we had to breath the same air as these people breath. WHAT WOULD THE SYMTOMS BE?

    BRAIN FART'S...TOTAL HEART FAILURE...CONSCIENCE DECLINE...FOOT IN MOUTH DISEASE...MORAL DISINTEGRATION...BIGOTRY...

    Would these same people refer to the above as "EPIC ACHIEVEMENTS"?

    God, that thought scares the hell out of me, and, it should scare the hell out of everyone.

    This is about an "OPINION" (First Amendment) NOTHING ELSE!

    They were looking for a SACRIFICAL LAMB. Are we in reality, asking for a...MODICUM OF JUDEMENT & DESCREATION AMONG CONSPIRATOR'S...?

    It must be like SITTING ON NITROGLYCERIN for Hal and his family.

    This must stop! I'm sure I can speak for many people when saying, "We are all counting on, The Honorable Judge Walter, to put a stop to this Injustice by Dismissing these TRUMPED UP CHARGES.

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  9. WAY TO GO DEBBIE!!!!

    This is a sick S.O.B.,he needs to brought to task.

    This guy is DIRTY,SELF A SERVING BASTARD.

    His own people know what he is,Know what he is doing,they will take care of him(FIRE HIS ASS).

    What a disgrace, what PIECE OF SHIT, this guy
    is.

    FRY/FIRE HIS ASS

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  10. Gee..its beginning to sound alot like "The Soviet Union" or China or some other tyrannical regime is pulling the strings..This is nothing more than PC gone wild ( without the gratitious perky breasts)..I sure hope Hal and his legal team are building a countersuit against these assholes.This is politics at its worst,just the sort of shit you expect when you squeeze assholes.I am so looking forward to the "Right" siezing power from the Leftist/Progressive America hating communist pig fuckers..We seriously need to fix this country it is morally ,spiritually and economically bankrupt because of these bastards...even Jesus got angry and threw the Moneylenders from HIs Fathers House..its time we did like HIm and threw these bastards the hell out...2012 is coming and 2010 is here !

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  11. ...So I see Scott Brown won in the "Peoples Republic of Massachusettes"...I guess it was'nt The Drunken Lying bastards seat after all...WE Have spoken...and will continue to speak,loudly..You hang in there Hal..Chris Christie is a decent guy ..hope he straps a bigger pair on and gives you a hand....in the mean time we will support you and Our Country and Constitution.

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  12. We have contacted our prayer groups.

    Want you to know that literally thousands of good people around the world are praying for you and your family. Our prayers are for you and your family to find peace and see this awful case dismissed.

    We are also praying for Judge Walter, asking God to remind him of the oath he took, and implore him to remember his Honor and Integrity to do the right thing, by dismissing these charges!

    Keep safe Hal, God is good, he will prevail.

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  13. HILTER, STALIN, HOGAN.

    All managed to outmaneuver their rivals until they dominated. All were obviously NUTS.

    Insanity helped them, they loved POWER. They had a talent for exploitation. For HILTER, STALIN AND HOGAN this is LIGHT WORK.

    Every success he has when he is getting away with something increases his feeling of OMINIPOTENCE.

    ie:
    Trumping up charges against Hal and God only knows who else..

    Instructing the witnesses (FBI) not to answer the subpoenas from the Defense and not show up in court in Chicago..

    Being told by Judge Walter in Brooklyn court, "Do not interview with the Press". Then immediately leaving the Courtroom he talks to the press!!!!!

    RUTHLESS is one word that comes to mine. SOCIOPATH is another and PHYSOPATH is a third.

    NOTHING HAPPENED TO HIM FOR ALL OF THE ABOVE. WHY NOT???

    How many more lives will be destroy before someone steps up and says ENOUGH?????

    FIRE HIS ASS!!!!!

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  14. HAY HOGAN,
    STOP PISSING ON OUR LEGS AND TELLING US IT'S RAINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  15. Hal,
    You have many supporters standing behind you.

    You and your family are in our prayers.

    STAY STRONG, STAND TALL as JUSTICE will PREVAIL!

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  16. What is the Crime we're talking about here? Certainly not Freedom of Speech!!!

    Sounds like this USDA just became the Poster Child for Corruption! This type of coruption is not a minor traffic violation. His actions are the real crime.

    The Judge has a huge job, but as long as he remembers that "Above all things Integrity is his lot and proper virtue the landmark", he will dismiss these charges.

    If he does not he will corrupt the fountain. In this case the fountain from which the public drinks is CONFIDENCE IN THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM.

    Hal Turner's words were NOT a CRIME, they were an OPINION clearly protected by the First Amendment.

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  17. A Wise & Great Man said,
    "This country with it's institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it"
    Abraham Lincoln

    Does anyone think he was arrested and thrown in jail? We all know the answer to that.

    Why was Hal Turner arrested and thrown in jail for exercising his 1st. Amendment, by expressing an opinion ?

    Is there any Justice in our Justice System ?

    These charges need to be dismissed because they are a direct attack on the Constitutional Right of, FREEDOM OS SPEECH.

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  18. VERMONT HAS INTRODUCED OFFICIALLY FROM VARIOUS HEADS TO SECEDE FROM THE U S OF A ...
    THEY HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THE VIPERS..
    AS PREDICTED.. MY WORRY IS VANCOUVER OLYMPICS MAY CHANGE ALL OF THIS ..

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  19. You know what would be GREAT: seeing HOGAN'S mug shot in the post office MOST WANTED:

    WANTED FOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

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  20. That's a great idea, but, I have a better thought:

    SEEING HOGAN'S FACE ON A MILK CARTON.

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  21. The First Amendment of the Constitution is one that "We Will Die To Protect".

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  22. Hello,

    Is Hal a friend of Jesus:

    LORD Jesus Christ says "you are My friends if you do what I
    command"(John 15:14) and "if you love Me, you will obey what I
    command."(John 14:15)

    I think Hal is a friend of Jesus, thus all Christians.

    The LORD commands His disciples, who are mindful of WDJW and are doing
    what He wants, to "love each other as I have loved you."(John 15:12)

    Hal is giving his love and life.
    No. You donot have to die to "give your life", and Hal is an example of that.

    The LORD teaches "greater love has no one than this, that he lay down
    his life for his friends."(John 15:13)

    Truly

    Truth will set you free according to Jesus in John 8:32

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